China Plus-One in Vietnam, too?

February 2nd, 2008 | by This is China! |

vietnam.jpgChris Devonshire-Ellis at Dezan-Shira Associates recently filed a report in one of the company’s online publications, China Briefing News, entitled “Corporate America’s China Plus-One Strategy.” During a round of speaking engagements in California – ostensibly about China business issues – he encountered overwhelming concern about further investment in China and alternatives to investing solely in China:

“One entrepreneurial businessman I met for martinis in the Bellagio was telling me China has gotten too expensive, and certainly now in Beijing, where he’s currently based. “Tianjin…” he said, “I need to consider relocating to Tianjin” referring to the major, yet somewhat shabby port city just 100 km east of Beijing. “Or failing that, Vietnam. I passed through there on my last Asia trip and it’s looking promising.”

During the conference circuit this past year I myself saw a clear saturation of American companies invested in China; the overwhelming majority already had interests in China: factories and/or supply chains. This past year I mostly spoke at conferences on investment conditions in second- and third-tier cities in China. Vietnam has come up in discussions, but for me typically off-circuit. Still, the other overwhelming fact I saw was that the majority of American companies with factories in China were locked within a 150km radius of the major cities in China: Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou. Now, that’s not a lot of China they’ve exploited as manufacturing bases. However, American companies in particular are notoriously uptight about their access to McDonalds and Pizza Huts and Starbucks coffee as infrastructure starters.

However, Chris’s observation is accurate about the increased costs of doing business in China. For instance, along the eastern seaboard everything from food through utilities through staff seems monthly to be becoming more expensive. In the interior of the country, an immature infrastructure can make logistics – especially for export markets – more expensive than basing an operation in Waigaoqiao Free Trade Zone in Shanghai. Also, the scarcity of qualified local Chinese professionals in China’s interior adds further expense and headache to export-led companies that settle inland.

“For many, the job of China expansion is done. The push into the inland regions there is proving financially unattractive. Other Asian destinations offer coastal facilities and in some cases demanding and growing middle class consumers on a scale that outstrips the Chinese. Why, after all, would you want to locate a new export manufacturing facility inland in China and away from the increasingly expensive coastal cities of Shanghai and Guangzhou, when you can have exactly the same plant slap bang on the coast in Vietnam or India, with an English speaking workforce and better tax investment incentives? You wouldn’t, and the savvy American boardrooms and entrepreneurs know this.”

What many of these manufacturers do not seem to realize is that though it might sound logical for them to put an operation in Vietnam because everyone else is talking about it, Vietnam is essentially where China was in its investment development curve ten to fifteen years ago, by all accounts. Whether infrastructure, staffing or logistics, Vietnam has a long way to go before it reaches the same level of sophistication as China currently has as a manufacturing base. Vietnam will be alluring predominantly to export-driven assembly MNCs like Intel with its billion dollar assembly plant in Ho Chi Min City, and to businesses like Dell and HP, which are eagerly eying the assembly-labor pool in the country. Meanwhile, Taiwan has had nearly 3000 small- and medium-size operations in Vietnam for 20 years, mostly in the South, according to the Taiwan External Trade Development Council. Now, larger Taiwanese assembly plant investment is seeing its way into the country , with Foxconn and Compal publicizing potential commitments in the billions of dollars. The South Chinese textile manufacturers - mostly Hong Kongese - blocked by American import quotas, have set up shop in the Southeast Asian nation, too.

Vietnam will, though, have a more difficult time than China has had in moving up the production value chain for precisely the same reason China is becoming less attractive to American companies: too many people becoming wealthy too quickly. The key to China’s rapid rise and success to date has been its huge potential consumer market – always has been, always will be (remember the old adage about adding an inch to every Chinaman’s sleeve). It’s the potential market size that has pulled the Western companies to China in the first place and that locked so many foreign companies into joint ventures with Chinese companies in which the Westerners had to transfer technology (for instance car makers like Ford and GM). Such technology transfers – and outright thefts of technology - have enabled China to rapidly move up the value chain, and so create a middle class that has imported inflation from the West.

The Vietnamese market will never have the same allure as China’s; India’s does, but India has its own investment karma that will eventually slow Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) momentum into the subcontinent. Indeed, Vietnam’s population of 85 million is only ten million larger than all of China’s Jiangsu Province, next door to Shanghai. Further, Vietnam’s immature transportation infrastructure and logistics industry will not place it as a logical platform from which to export to the two largest consumer markets in the world: China and India. Those markets will be best served from within each country.

Ultimately, Vietnam - as India has already become, and as Beijing and then Shanghai had been – will be just another lemming-run. Likely, by the time American companies have bidded up the cost of doing business in all of the Asian developing countries - say, over the next twenty years – they’ll find the United States , with its hollowed-out manufacturing sector and reformed health care system, an attractive base to which to return to export goods to rich Asian countries. Like China and India.

Bill Dodson
SUZHOU, China

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  1. 6 Responses to “China Plus-One in Vietnam, too?”

  2. By Mark on Feb 2, 2008 | Reply

    Very interesting article, especially your last paragraph. I’m already hearing about software jobs moving back to the States because India is too expensive and culturally too different from America.

    Any comments on those rumors?

  3. By China Law Blog on Feb 2, 2008 | Reply

    Vietnam is hot. So hot in fact, that its property prices are rising faster than just about anywhere else in the world. Everyone seems to be ignoring the rapid price growth going on in Vietnam as well. We just had a client who, after conducting an in depth cost analysis, chose to locate in Dalian over Saigon due largely to costs. As you well know, costs can be so complicated in that they entail so much more than just labor and rent. i have seen too many companies go into countries thinking they are cheap and then learning of some costs they never realized were out there. As a lawyer, I always leave this stuff to the real experts.

  4. By This is China! on Feb 3, 2008 | Reply

    China Law Blog;
    Thanks for the insightful comment.

    Most companies investing abroad do not do any kind of cost modeling, leave alone projections into future possible scenarios. In the Chongqing case about which I had written in the post “Coming to Jesus in Chongqing,” the export-driven company’s primary reason for locating in Chongqing - cheap natural gas - has already been made obsolete by the rapid rise in gas prices; on top which VAT rebate reductions and the cost of labor has made the company’s project unprofitable before the plant has even opened!

    Not to say that Vietnam is unviable - since it is for certain kinds of projects, some of which I mention in the article above - however, future site selection projects really do need to take into account a total Asian picture, instead of companies simply going to where everyone else is going because it’s “safe” decision in the Boardroom.

    As you’ve already noted in your comment, rates in Saigon are already escalating. I saw on the American Chamber of Commerce in Vietnam’s website a presentation topic siting office rental rates of US$100 per square meter already. Vietnam is relatively small, and will take a fraction of the time it took China’s east coast to “bid up” in price.

  5. By This is China! on Feb 3, 2008 | Reply

    Mark;
    I have not heard those rumors - not to say they’re false - however, I don’t doubt it. I think it would be great if that were true.

    One of the reasons Boeing chose a Suzhou-based software outsourcing company, I was told by managers at the Suzhou company, was that Boeing’s Indian outsourcers were raising rates annually in the double-digits, and becoming a bit bossy, to boot! Boeing decided it needed more control over its projects and to have greater leverage over their accounts.

    I do believe the digital channels through which jobs flowed out of the States will flow back under the right circumstances; ie, competitiveness, pure and simple.

  6. By Hanoi Group Sourcing on May 29, 2008 | Reply

    Thanks Bill for the interesting article.

    Should anyone need asistance in sourcing from Vietnam from local insiders just drop us an email.

    Nguyen Huy Minh
    Director Of Sourcing
    Hanoi Group / Sourcing
    minhnh@hanoisourcing.com

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