Black Like Me in China
November 16th, 2007 | by This is China! |
A reporter for America’s National Public Radio recently interviewed me for a piece on the Marketplace radio program. The reporter wanted to know how I had been racially discriminated against as a black man doing business in China.
I said I hadn’t. Not even once. Not during the five years I’ve been living and working here in China. And I’ve traveled to dozens of cities in China.
Marketplace is a nightly half-hour business program that comes on during the early evening, pretty much wherever you are in the States. I’d listened to the program for nearly fifteen years before I moved to China. Never had I heard an angle for a Marketplace story quite like this. The reporter explained to me that Beyonce, the black female performer that fell off-stage during a Youtube take, was performing in China, which prompted the report. I guess she wanted to know if it was going to be safe for her to take Chinese people’s money.
I wryly informed the reporter - who was a rather pleasant fellow in conversation - that I would not participate in the interview if the exclusive angle of the report was that there was rampant racial discrimination in China and that black folks were targeted specifically.
Surprised, curious, the reporter asked me why my experience seemed so at odds with that of a couple black women he had interviewed. I explained that for one, Chinese people consider me coffee-colored, as they like to say in Chinese language, not black in the same way the word is used in the States; that is, as a broad stroke term for any exhibiting signs he has at least one percent of African blood. So, Chinese people 95 percent of the time don’t know what country I’m from, since I don’t fit their stereotype of an American: tall, blond-haired, blue eyed; nor of a basketball star – too short, not dark enough.
But it doesn’t really matter to them anyway, because on a good day I am a businessman representing millions in dollars in projects to them. So they don’t care if I’m green with antennae sticking from my bald pate. Intimate to a Chinese there is a possible business transaction and they will become your best friend - at least until the money lasts.
Next, I told him, I speak Chinese. And as most people in the world know, the vast majority of Americans are linguistically challenged; they only speak their own flat, nasal dialect of the English language. Also, Chinese people, in their blind adoration for their culture and language, figure any foreigner that can communicate with them in their own language can’t be half bad after all. A lot of their stereotypes – no matter from which country you hail – fall away.
And finally, I finished, I do believe from the experience I’ve had working in China and in other countries that nine-tenths of getting along in a foreign land with the natives is the way you present yourself. So if you have taken your emotional baggage from your home country to a foreign land, you will certainly find an audience willing to throw the baggage back at you. That is, look for discrimination, and you will find it.
So, yes, there is discrimination in China, even racial. But I do believe you either have to go looking for it in Business or manufacture it yourself during business transactions.
Chinese in their hurry hurry, convoluted world have neither the time nor the inclination for anything but the stereotypes they picked up while on the farm; and 1.2 billion of them are either still on the farm or just came off it. Chinese have neither the experience nor sensitivities that blacks around the world - especially in hurtful America - have gained through institutionalized slavery and then socialized discrimination. Nor is their much of a sense of Political Correctness in China (to wit, the public bathroom sign in Shanghai that reads: “for Crippled People”).
The bottom line in today’s China: “money talks”. Chinese are equal opportunity opportunists. If you’ve clearly got money and are interested in doing a business transaction with them, they don’t care the color of your skin or the origin of ancestry. However, if you’re a black-skinned student from Africa – clearly a poor country, every Chinese figures – then you will likely not get the time of day from them. (Though you may get clubbed over the head, as did a group of African students on Beijing’s bar street, Sanlitun, in September of this year; one of the unfortunates clubbed was the son of the Ambassador from Greneda. In an attempt to squelch African drug gangs that peddle drugs to expats in Beijing, the police went about the affair in a manner comparable to that of the French – or the Americans. In this and any other bit of profiling the Chinese attempt to do, the Chinese are more guilty of blatant stupidity than of institutionalized racism against blacks).
Chinese do have their stereotypes, specifically about black-skinned Africans (and Indians, too), and their pre-conceptions are unflattering the least. But I feel far safer and freer to be myself in China as a “black man” than in the United States, where after a couple hundred years Americans still haven’t gotten their institutional act together: I’ve been stopped twice by the police and arrested once in the States – just for being a dark speck floating in a glass of pasteurized milk; that is, in the wrong place at the wrong time, as I’ve been told.
I have neither been followed nor harassed nor arrested by police in China.
A bright fellow, the reporter responded that he would be willing to balance out the report if I’d come into the NPR studio in Shanghai for the interview. Which went swimmingly.
And now to listen for how the sound-bite expresses the most personal.
Bill Dodson
SUZHOU, China

9 Responses to “Black Like Me in China”
By Mark Forman on Nov 16, 2007 | Reply
Good piece Bill. I’d say it fairly well parallels my experiences here in Taiwan and China. “Chinese are equal opportunity opportunists.” Allow me to go one better. They love money in any color as long as it spends.
Darlie not so bad(name anyhow) the graphic, well.. I imagine you know the name used to be Darkie, that always made me cringe a little.
By Bill on Nov 16, 2007 | Reply
Yeah, an American friend of mine who is also mixed blood (black and white) and who has lived in China seven or eight years told me a couple days ago the toothpaste used to be called Darkie. That is a ridiculous name, really. And shows just how stupid societies can be.
A couple weeks ago I was watching Suzhou TV with a friend of mine when a Darlie commercial came on. I told her simply, without malice, “You know, you’d never be able to see a commercial like that in the States.” “Oh, why’s that?” she asked. I told her because of all the bad meanings it has for black people in the States because of their difficult time there in history. She accepted the explanation, and seemed to understand the sensitivity.
It is, though, a pretty good toothpaste as Chinese toothpastes go (don’t know, though, if it’s got any of that wierd stuff they were getting in Chinese-made toothpastes State-side).
Still, Chinese have a long way to go, though, before they shake off the Farm.
By Jason on Nov 18, 2007 | Reply
Great Post.
Put up a link when the audio is aired?
By Sun Hongfei on Nov 20, 2007 | Reply
I just watched the film of “Crash”. it is a good film. I’m impressed by this section in the beginning: two blacks walk on the street, talk; a couple of whites walk from the other direction, the wife feels cold and get closer to the husband; one black tell the other, see, when the white woman notice us, she is scared; the other says, no, she just feel cold; the first says, when she sees us, she feel cold, let’s rob them…..
so sensitive! and your words is exactly right: look for discrimintation, and you will find it.
hopefully, it is just film.
basically, chinese are also colored. I’m glad you live happily in China.
By Dad on Nov 20, 2007 | Reply
Great blog
By Bill on Nov 20, 2007 | Reply
Thanks, Dad.
NOTE: Dad and Mom live in Ft. Walton Beach, Florida. One day I will get them to come to China.
By Bill on Nov 20, 2007 | Reply
Mr. Sun;
Yes, Chinese are colored, too. I remember once asking a classroom of Chinese students what color they were. They pointed at me and said, “Your color!” I said, “Westerners say you’re Yellow.” “No we’re not!” they protested. “Well, white people say you’re yellow and I’m black.” “But you’re not black!” they resisted, “You’re the same color as us! And some of us are darker than you! How can they be black, too!?”
“So what if a Chinese is white?” I asked. “Then if it is a girl she is very pretty,” they answered. “And if it is a man?” I continued. “Then he may be sick!” they groaned.
All goes to show: color is in the eyes of the beholder.
By The Humanaught on Nov 22, 2007 | Reply
Fantastic post Bill. Glad to see you’re on your own domain now and I can read your blog again (though, as of checking yesterday typepad was unblocked…bah!).
The Darkie/Darlie thing is absolutely despicable and completely insensitive if you ask me. The fact that it went through one round of changes shows that ignorance of its connotation ain’t going to cut it. And, it should be noted, it’s still called “Black Man Toothpaste” in Chinese.
I do feel though that racial stereotypes are just part of Chinese customs and are applied as much domestically as they are internationally. Kaiser’s got a great little poem speaking to those stereotypes.
To be fair, black people and yellow people say I’m white.
By Bill on Nov 22, 2007 | Reply
Humanaught;
You’re right about the Chinese applying simplistic stereotypes domestically, as well. Chinese city dwellers - especially those raised in a city like Beijing or Shanghai - are absolutely ruthless when it comes to their perceptions and treatment of their more swarthy brethren from the country-side.
And I recall the last time we met, you were more “pink” than “white”.
Cheers!